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in virginia, the president once again pressed for congress to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> if this family has a couple of thousand dollars less to spend, that translates into $200 billion of less consumer spending next year. and that's bad for businesses, large and small. >> reporter: behind the scenes, the two sides are talking again. but there was no progress in public. senators today fought over the debt limit, and ended up deadlocked over a bill to allow the president to automatically increase borrowing. >> he's shown what he is really after is unprecedented powers to spend taxpayer dollars without any limit at all. >> reporter: if the debt limit isn't raised, the country can't pay for the spending congress has already approved. and economists say the nation pays a high price for this kind of brinksmanship. >> business people aren't going to engage unless they have clarity with respect to this thing. >> reporter: but few insiders expect to find much clarity from washington in the coming weeks. darren gersh, nbr, washington. >> susie: investors will bengorn those fiscal cliff talks, and th
's fiscal cliff, but what really happens on january 1st to you? this is a 9 news fiscal cliff note. fact, if congress and the white house don't reach an agreement, your paycheck is going to go down. the reason? because the tax withholding in your paycheck is going to increase. here's the back story. the current payroll tax cut is set to expire december 31st. in dollars and cents this means that your payroll tax withholding is going from 4.2% to 6.2%. now why is this happening? many of the policies expiring at the end of the year like the payroll tax cuts and emergency unemployment benefits were originally passed on a temporary basis. the thinking was that the economy would be in much better shape by now and the policies could expire without causing a recession. >> you can learn more any time at www.wusa9.com and on 9 news. this has been a 9 news fiscal cliff note. >>> i'm colonel will bourn stationed in kabul afghanistan. i'd like to send out a many are rei christmas to my wife and family and -- merry christmas to my wife and family in northern virginia. >>> we are gearing up for a big w
the fiscal cliff and understand at a personal level what is going on. for the president and congress to create more jobs. more full-time meaningful jobs. letting people pursue their dreams to achieve an income so they can get married and have families. do whatever they want. not penalizing the very people who have the courage and resources to create the jobs. the government will never create the number of jobs needed to put america back to work. connell: paul conway, thank you. appreciate you coming on. dagen: scott bloch is joining us now from boston. you look at the nasdaq and the broad market measured by the s&p 500 last year. double-digit gains by both. is that not wanted? >> well, it is. multiples are cheap. even if we look today on yesterday's close. the problems are the corporate earnings really starting to head down. the latest reported s&p earnings were down. that is the first drop since the bottom of the 08 market. truthfully, some of the estimates for next year, $113 on the s&p. i do not see a lot of growth in earnings next year. it does not bode well. it is hard to be ver
tells for everybody under 250. >> is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. >> if congress in any way suggests that they're going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes, i will not play that game. >> he's the last person who should have limitless borrowing power. look, the only way we ever cut spending around here is by using the debate over the debt limit to do it. >> joining me now is nbc's senior political editor, mark murray. we've heard a lot about this idea of decoupling the tax cuts where the house would pass two girls, one for the middle class and one for top earners leaving it up to the senate to reject the tax cut for the rich. is that idea really on the table at this point? >> craig, that decoupling is what the white house and democrats do want. there does seem to be an indication and all the signs point to at the end of the day republicans in some form or fashion might end up budging on floo that front. you played a bunch of clips of republicans and democrats engaging in a lot of posturing and pr. a lot influences the public in
cliff. compared to just 36% who trust republicans in congress. also today speaker boehner said he wouldn't rule out an agreement to raise taxes as part of a fiscal cliff deal. but he also said there's no progress. this is what winning looks like. joining me now, e.j. dionne and thank you both for your time. senator solis, the jobless rate is at a four-year low. that's quite an achievement. >> yes, reverend re. but we still need to do more. in sectors like retail and health care and tourism and hospitality. we need to do more because people are still suffering. we've got to put jobs back in infrastructure and construction and put our teachers. that's why the president is working so hard so we don't go off the fiscal cliff so we keep the most vulnerable people out of harm's way. to pay $2,200. we've got to talk about fairness here and i'm very excited that the public is listening to the message that the president has made very, very clear. >> 146,000 new private sector jobs last month but one of the things that you talk about is the public sector. the president has proposed about $50 billi
suggested it will be easy to finish a deal with congress to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> it would take 15 minutes from the time the decision is made by the speaker of the house to pass and make permanent middle class tax cut. the president would probably have me sprint up to the hill to bring the bill down for him to sign. it can be done like that. it is not complicated. >> greg: speaker bane -- >> reporter: speaker john boehner not so optimistic. >> this is not a progress report, there is no progression to report. report. >> reporter: he blasted for not offering a counterproposal to his plan and they seemed more than ever going to stop the tax increase. economy shrugged off hurricane sandy to create 146,000 new jobs, nearly double what forecasters had said, job creation for september and october was revised downward by a total of 49,000. another 350,000 people were so discouraged in november they simply stopped looking for work and left the labor force, which is why the unemployment rate dipped to 7.7%. >> raising taxes on small businesses is not going to help our economy and it's not go
. it sits along the mississippi river. if congress allows the country to go over the fiscal cliff, the effects felt here could be dramatic. first and foremost, there's the rock island arsenal. if congress doesn't act, defense spending will be slashed by 55 billion next year, 450 billion over ten years, which many fear could put the arsenal in jeopardy. established in 1862, the arsenal is home to the army sustainment command, the first army, and the national cemetery. it's also the largest government run military manufacturing facility in the country. the arsenal is the area's largest employer, and though it is not clear how any cuts would impact the installation specifically, the mere prospect has people worried. >> there's approximately 8,000 jobs on arsenal island with various commands located there, and the average salary, not including benefits is about double on the island what it is off island. >> reporter: next, health care, another major employer in the quad cities. if congress doesn't act, medicare reimbursements will initially drop by 2%. trinity medical center in rock i
if congress does address the problems that it needs to address concerning the fiscal cliff if we had reasonable resolution type of programs that the president has been proposing to support the economy in the short run, get us on a sustainable fiscal path in the long run, protect the middle class, we're going to continue to see progress in this economy. in fact, i would say if you look deeply in this report the retail trade sector did quite well. that's a sign consumers are feeling more confident. and the last thing we need now is a big tax increase on the middle class to affect that consumer confidence. >> to the fiscal cliff here. one of the more intriguing parts of the story has been is it actually bad for the economy in the long run if we go over the cliff, and i want to quote back to you, the congressional budget office, their review of the fiscal cliff policies and they made a projection that while 2013, if all of the fiscal cliff things and all is enacted in congress and you do nothing to stop the tax rate increases for everybody, 2013 will be bad but by 2018 and 2020 we will b
the fiscal cliff deadline, government workers have joined the push but they want to make sure they're not cut out of the deal. >> federal employees that i represent have offered up $103 billion to the federal deficit. >> reporter: jd cox of the american federation of government employees say they can't afford anymore cuts and going over the fiscal cliff will impact millions of americans. >> there would be a lot of federal employees who would be furloughed or riffed and would lose their jobs. >> reporter: economists say the combination of automatic spending cuts and tax increases that will kick in january 1st if congress and the president don't reach an agreement could plunge the country back into recession. danielle nottingham, cbs news, washington. >> the house is scheduled to formally adjourn by the end of the year on december 14th but house majority leader says they will stay in session until a cred credible solution is worked out. >>> it could be a big day in the battle o of same sex mainly. the -- marriage. the justices are being asked to overturn a lower court ruling that the prop 8 ban
in the fiscal cliff negotiations it would be counterproductive if congress cut invest. >>> in education and job training to "reduce the deficit" in a way that would impact future economic growth. we've got to fix the workforce investment, the job training system in the united states to prepare people for the types of jobs that ceo has. >> you've been there, you've had to forge deals between warring constituencies. fiscal cliff. what would the solution be if you were handling it? >> i like the idea of the president, john boehner, the key players, getting together with no staff in the room. the second thing, they've got to be guided by a couple of things. number one, what is best for the nation? not my party, not my philosophy, not necessarily my politics. number two -- >> you'd like it one on one. >> editd' i'd like it one on on discuss specifics in a one on one way. second, they may agree there should be short-term steps and long-term steps, i think we can get there. the nation is counting on them doing something significant. >> saints/giants this weekend? >> i've got to go for the saints. i'm
's ultimatum driving us to the fiscal cliff? chris and senior writer for the weekly standard, steven hayes the guests here tonight. we begin with the dictator trying to maintain command of the country using chemical weapons as a deterrent. fox news chief washington correspondent james rosen has the latest for us in this report. >> a regime helicopter captured in the skies in syria in a video unloads something, most likely, a defensive flair to detour antirebel runners, but that epitomizes the fear of which the serian people now live. rebel forces taking the flight to the assad regime inside the capital with a deadly explosion in the arab red crescent building outside the city. >> it's very clear the regime forces are being grounded down and that they are losing. >> in seeking to squash the uprising, he killed 40,000 people. president obama's top aids feel the fighting takes on a more gruesome character. >> we remain very concerned, very concern that as the opposition advances, in particular on damascus, that the regime might very well consider the use of chemical weapons. >> senior u.s. of
no progress on the fiscal cliff as democrats and republicans trade barbs over the issue. one group of americans is finding a way through this regardless of congress and the president. small-business owners in this country are preparing to hire. join me now, chief u.s. economist for i may just pull one side. heart of america group founder, and member of the jobs creation alliance and actual job creators in this country who say their voices not being heard in this office took with debate. also with us from the weekly standard, steven haze. welcome. great to have you here. i want to start with the conversation in washington and what the speaker had to say about the status of the fiscal here is mr. boehner. >> this is in the progress report because there is no progress to report. when it comes to the fiscal cliff that is turning our economy and jobs, the white hhuse is wasted another week. gerri: what do you say? we wasted another week. we seem to be getting nowhere, and now folks are saying the president is trying to entice us of the fiscal cliff. >> look, i think they're actually som
. congress hearing from all sides on the fiscal cliff and heading up a coalition of business and economic leaders in the fix the debt campaign, where do you sense the players are right now in terms of whether they'll go interest a small deal, band-aid approach or grand bargain. >> the good news is while it's a nail biter, that's for sure, we all wish we could solve some of these problems without going to the brink like we do in politics, i think they're going to get this resolved and be able to put in place a plan not just to avert the fiscal cliff, but importantly to really tackle the deficit and debt problems in this country. i am concerned that deal won't be big enough. is it going to be small or medium or big. we need a plan big enough to fix the deficit problems and make sure the debt is no longer growing faster than the economy. we're not going to be able to balance the budget in the near future because the fiscal hole is so big. you want to make sure the debt is not growing faster than the economy. that's going to take $4 trillion in savings. you need all parts on the table and con
to handle the fiscal cliff negotiations. only 36% trust the "r"s in congress. joining me is nbc chief white house correspondent and political director and host of "the daily rundown," anything else you control around here? >> that's enough. >> and "the washington post's" chris cillizza. i think you've been reupped. you're all over the place. you're the greatest. the absolute best there is in this -- >> let's be careful talking about the president outside the beltway in virginia. >> this is why i want you and chris on. what is the president hoping to get done? what's his time frame? does he believe in the cliff or does he think it's a bungee jump? >> no, he truly believes in the cliff. he has been getting -- and he's getting economic warnings from his own team that say, don't believe the congressional budget office, which is kind of rosy about this, who says it would be a tough 2013 if we went over the cliff but things would get better. he is getting updates saying, no, no, no, we will go into recession. >> therefore, let's go to the therefore now, can he arrange a credible, reasonably progr
deadline. they're now blaming each other for stalling talks that could send us off a fiscal cliff. in a surprise visit to a falls church family, the president emphasized he will refuse to sign a bill that does not raise taxes on the wealthy but republicans say that's a deal breaker. his stance they say proves the president is not interested in striking a balanced deal, simp in spending more and raising the debt ceiling. but the president says his main concern is certainly the middle- class families of america. he does not want to burden them with the potential $2,000 a year hike in taxes. meanwhile, republican senator jim demint of south carolina among all -- in the midst of all the fiscal cliff talks and the pressure that's mounting here on capitol hill, well, the senator resigned the senate yesterday. he said he's going to head a conservative think tank claiming he can do more there than he can do here in congress. we'll have another report in a half-hour. back to you. >> delia goncalves with that june date from capitol hill. >>> local lawmakers are talking to 9news about the fi
even if congress and the white house reach a deal to avert the fiscal cliff. >>> a developing story out of north korea. the country may set off a long range rocket as early as this monday. that's according to media reports in south korea. the rocket is reportedly being fueled, but heavy snowfall may have slowed down preparations. north korea wants to launch what it calls a peaceful satellite sometimes before november 22nd. the u.s. believes the rocket is a cover to test missile technology. >>> president obama is speaking out against ongoing unrest in egypt. he has called egyptian president mohamed morsi to express concern about recent protests that have resulted in numerous deaths and injuries, calling the violence unacceptable. president obama did welcome morsi's call for talks with opposition leaders. this comes after a violent week in cairo. on wednesday night, six were killed and nearly 700 injured in protest outside morsi's palace. >>> this morning d.c. mayor vincent gray will announce a new flood prevention for bloomingdale. this comes after flash floods swamped that neighborhood
for the "fiscal cliff." the deadline for the president and congress to find a way to avoid tax increases and spending cuts is 25 days away. president obama made a special point to sit with a middle class family in virginia this afternoon. he was trying to offer an example of who would be hurt by the republican tax proposal. >> for them to be burdened unnecessarily because democrats and republicans aren't coming together to solve this problem gives the sense of the costs involved in very personal terms. >> republicans are standing behind their counter-offer to chose tax loopholes and limit some deductions. they say the president needs to deliver a new plan that they can agree on and soon. it's also important to note that congress is scheduled to adjourn december 21st and the president is supposed to be headed to hawaii for vacation on december 17. >>> after doing some downsizing starbucks is back to brewing up some expansion plans and that includes another san francisco store. at market and sanchez. cbs 5 reporter mike sugerman tells us some small businesses in that area are trying to gri
the fiscal cliff, if we have reasonable resolution type of programs that the president has been proposing to support the economy in the short run, get us on a sustainable fiscal path in the long run, protect the middle class we're going to see progress in this economy. >> the risk the president wants us to take increasing tax rates will hit many small businesses that produce 60 to 70% of the new jobs in our country. that's the whole issue here. >> on the fiscal cliff front, no new deals or concessions made public, but "the new york times" reports the dynamic has changed. at the request of speaker boehner, senate leaders and nancy pelosi have been dismissed from the negotiating table. leaving just the speaker and the president to hammer this one out. today vice president biden is hosting middle-class families at the white house, continuing to pressure congress to strike a deal on tax rates below 250,000. yesterday, the president struck a hopeful note with a middle-income family in virginia, while maintaining a hardline on negotiations. >> the message that i think we all want to send to mem
of sandy. they feel the unemployment rate will remain at 7.9%. they're also concerned that the fiscal cliff is keeping jobs from hiring. vice president joe biden will have lunch with a group of middle class americans. their taxes could sky rocket if congress and president obama don't reach an agreement on a budget by the end of the year. the white house has highlighted several middle class families' struggles in making the case for a deal. >>> in syria tensioned at a boiling point between rebels and the government. syrian rebels have declared damascus international airport a military target, warning civilians and airlines not to approach it. this comes as reports of the government preparing to use chemical weapons on the civilians there. since march of 2011, 40,000 people have been killed in the country's civil war. >>> a u.s. capitol police officer is in the hospital this morning after being hit by a car. this happened around 8:30 last night around massachusetts avenue in northeast washington. we're told the officer was hit during a traffic stop. her condition has not been released. so far
to go over the fiscal cliff. host: here is the story from the "new york times" today. we are talking about the fiscal cliff negotiations and whether compromise or sticking to principles should be what members of congress and the president should do here. a couple of weets this morning. when leaders say -- when people say leaders should stick to their principles, they mean leaders should stick to my principles. a lot of columns this morning talking about this issue, the ongoing fiscal cliff negotiations. here is "the washington post." we are taking your thoughts on the issue. but gutted the independent line. welcome to the "washington journal." caller: i agree also with a caller on the democrat line. i agree with what he was referring to -- c-span changing a with bias. the issues, they did not talk about it. the ones who are behind it are the political parties. the industrial military complex host: if the country does off of the fiscal cliff, who do you think it's more of the blame on this? it is the president of the united states or congress? caller: the people are being brainwashed
. >> the fiscal cliff is the term that is given to a set of spending cuts and tax increases that will take effect in january if congress does not act to stop them. >>> investigators are trying to determine what happened before a football fan fell or jumped from the third deck at the oakland coliseum. he fell to the concourse during last night's broncos, raiders game and taken to the hospital with serious injuries. they called it an accident and it remains under investigation. >> the rails are like three to 4 feet. if you don't pay attention, you can fall. he fell yesterday. >> the raiders did issue a statement. the team had no information beyond what authorities are releasing. their thoughts and prayers are with the family and friends. >>> coming up in a few minutes, roger good dell will say where the raiders shall play in the future and who would pay to build a new stadium. >>> this couple accused of killing this woman are going to court. the couple is accused of killing a retired schoolteacher who was found stabbed to death back in october. the washingtons were arrested after they spotted them
to accept a deal in fiscal cliff negotiations. the white house is pulling out all stops and cranking up the social media campaign. president obama has been encouraging supporters to tweet with the #my2k, explaining what a $2,000 tax increase would mean for them and their families. the white house reports the hash tag has appeared in over 275,000 tweets with twitter seeing more than 18,000 tweets per hour add its peak. the road show coupled with the social media campaign is unprecede unprecedented. this is the kind of effort that helped president obama win a second term. now we'll see if his grassroots army can convince republicans to do what's right by the american people. i'm joined tonight by democratic strategist donna gentile-o'donnell and msnbc political analyst and georgetown university professor, michael eric dyson. great to have you with us tonight. >> thank you. >> i just want to go right to this poll. this quinnipiac poll was released today, and it shows the majority of the american people want tax rates to go up for the top 2%. donna, what about this? i mean, i don't think we
's up to two men to try to keep america from going over the fiscal cliff. 25 days and counting from the massive tax hikes and spending cuts. congress breaking in a week for the holiday. so john boehner trying to simplify things. he's asking top democrats and republica republicans to step aside so he can negotiate with the president one-on-one. it seems to be a request that everyone was able to live with. brianna keilar is live for us at the white house. if this is the case that everybody has been cleared out of the room, does that surprise you? it seems to make sense to me. >> reporter: it's not surprising at all. this is what observers of this process thought would happen all along. ultimately this was a process that would come down to president obama and house speaker john boehner brokering a deal. very much the way you saw they attempted to do during the debt ceiling debacle last year. it simplifies the problem of less cooks in the kitchen. then they will have to sell it. president obama would have to bring in democrats. john boehner would have to bring in his republicans and mak
, the president is hitting the road talking to families like the santanas in falls church about the fiscal cliff. the santanas, a family living with older parents say they stand to see their taxes go up by $4,000 if congress does not act now. the cliff would essentially mean the expiration of the bush era tax cuts. and that includes benefits to the middle class. everyone here on the hill agrees those families should be spared, but the president wants to raise taxes on the wealthy. republicans oppose the hike saying it would further hurt our economy. in the meantime, the president is also playing hardball on the debt ceiling. obama wants the $16.4 trillion debt ceiling to be lifted allowing for more government money to pay off medicare and tax refunds. he says without a resolution to the debt ceiling, there is no deal. >> just to be clear, i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for folks at the top 2%. >> what the president is really interested in as we learned just yesterday is getting as much taxpayer money as he can first by raising taxes on small bu
if we go over the cliff, it really is ... we still have a month or two for congress to fix things. >> if we go over the fiscal cliff, it will be bad. it will be really bad for the market. ultimately, it will make its way out. we are not solving this cliff before the end of the year. we have come to gather. we have a framework. we are here and they are there, but we will meet somewhere in the middle. i think it will be bad for the market if they work behind the curve. adam: when do they jump in if we go over the cliff? >> waited out. you will know. the first three days, at that point, start looking at getting into positions. our economy is doing better. things are pointing to growth. hopefully washington will not screw this up. if you look at these solid companies that are out there right now, those are the ones that you buy. adam: thank you very much. have a great day. melissa: we will show you whatt3 the 401(k) for ibm means for the company. adam: shifting to a right to work state. michigan's organized labor. take a look at how the dollar is faring today. ♪ >> @23 past the hour
going on holiday and 25 days from plunging off the edge of the fiscal cliff. >>> the "new york post" photographer who took the picture of the man in the subway tracks before he was hit sits down to tell his side of the story. we'll hear from him this hour on cnn. good morning, welcome to "early start." i'm christine romans. >> and i'm zoraida sambolin. it is 5:00 a.m. in the east. breaking new's massive earthquake in japan. it happened off the coast of japan, about 300 miles northeast of tokyo you can see on the tower cam that we are going to buildings swayed for several minutes there. let's go to alex zolbert live in tokyo what can you tell us? >> this happened friday evening b an hour and a half ago. an unnerving scene. a 7.3 magnitude earthquake. as we understand it, this came along the same fault line that triggered that massive tsunami in march of 2011. we have been watching all the local stations, trying to gather all the information we can. here's what we know at this point in terms of a tsunami. we have seen several small waves come in, about four waves. the biggest one bein
and congress -- you are now screwing up this fiscal cliff stuff royally with your hard line positions and your ridiculous protestations that you can't compromise. here's why. we are close, very close right now, within our grasps, to becoming the leader of the world when it comes to technology, innovation, natural resources, and finance. you are the only thing standing in our way. you are our ball and you are our chain. we saw glimmers of it today. like today dow rallies 40 points, s&p gained .33%, nasdaq .52%. whether it's the ceos of the biggest of the big,or the smallest of the small. tonight's guest of lumber liquidators, the intransigence the mean-spirited debates, the pledge is not to raise taxes, it's costing this nation a once in a lifetime opportunity to reassert itself as the leader of the free world. and faster growing the repressive communist world to boot. your inability to give us a deal, any deal is crushing our economy. allow me to explain. since i read @jimcramer on twitter, people say i'm biased. i believe that the compromise which all the common sense people are look
to you. >> thank you. >>> another big story, avoiding the fiscal cliff. president obama visited a middle class family in fairfax county to pitch his fiscal plan. that is because the average family will see taxes increase $2200 if congress doesn't take action by the end of the year. the president touted the benefits of extending tax breaks on those making $250,000 a year or less while continuing to push for rate increases on wealthier americans. >>> three, two, one! >> very busy for the president. he also put aside the partisan fight over that fiscal cliff for a time last night. joining the rest of the first family in lighting the national christmas tree on the ellipse. this marked the 90th year for the tree lighting ceremony. so pretty to watch and see that. >> you got to at least go down, drive by or something at some point. >> it is fun. >>> u.s. military ships on the move as north korea gets set to launch a rocket. we've got details next. >>> one police department is calling it one of the worst cases of child abuse they have ever investigated. details of an arrest at a day care center
. congress had trouble putting together a deal. now the u.s. may be heading for the fiscal cliff. what does that mean for you and your investments? we have the jobs report today for a brief moment. we weren't worried about the fiscal cliff. now, we are back. what do you make of it? >> the jobs report was okay. there are some signs of very modest improvement in jobs. the good news is we have not really lost momentum and i will put that in the victory column. from a very short-term perspective, it is the fiscal cliff that is on everyone's mind. consumer sentiment is starting to decline. that suggested everyone seems to be focused on the fiscal cliff. when you are focused on uncertainty, what do you do, you do nothing. those are the major implementations for the economy. cheryl: i can hear the hesitancy in your voice. a lot of our guests are saying the same thing. they are afraid of what washington will do or maybe not do. your outlook is a bit more bullish than some of your colleagues. what are you saying in the second half of 2013 that others are not? >> on a very short-term basis, we have n
between congress and the white house. 25 days before the u.s. is set to go over the fiscal cliff and still no deal. >> the president wants more revenue and fewer spending cuts then if we fell off the fiscal cliff. >> pulling the rug out from under these families would delay the recovery. how do we get the economy moving? weekly unemployment claims spike. governor chris christie pressed president obama for additional aid. >> i am going home, guys. >> hiring plans plans last month. matching a record low from november of 2008. planned layoffs rose 20% to their highest levels in six months. consumer spending is down. >> i want to thank tiffany. >> the fiscal cliff negotiations are down to president obama and john boehner. the uncertainty could take a toll. >> it hasn't affected hiring and layoff decisions yet but it will if we get into next year and haven't nailed this down. >> on monday the president travels to michigan to talked economy at a diesel plant. >> why is superstar sandy plain such a role in the jobs report? >> 24 states were affected one way or the other. businesses had to shut do
president obama's proposal on the fiscal cliff to show that neither he nor democrats in congress are acting in good faith in these negotiations. with just a few weeks ago before a potentially entirely avoidable blow to the economy, the president proposed a plan the members of his own party will even vote for. he is not interested in a balanced agreement, not particularly interested in avoiding the fiscal cliff, and clearly not interested at all in cutting any spending. with the president is really in, as we learned just yesterday, is getting as much taxpayer money as he can, first by raising taxes on small businesses who he believes are making too much money, and then on everybody else. not so he can lower the debt or the deficit, but so he can spend to his heart's content. for months, the president has been saying that all he wanted to raise taxes on the top 2% so he can tackle the debt and the deficit. however, yesterday, he finally revealed that that is not really is true intent. by demanding the power to raise the debt limit whenever he wants, by as much as he wants, he showed what he i
of congress plus it puts the fiscal cliff and place right now and you lay it out i'm sorry, count me out. stacte want to take the first question? >> you raise a good point. this is where people's eyes glaze over. they can say whatever you want them to say. but the notion, i do think that there's been to the relationship between revenues and the titles and if we want to go bigger the better we need to push all of those, the smaller unit and the less you do on the other side, but there are some who say the idea of the american public is going to buy into this notion okay we are going to look devotees taxes go up so everything can be returned in a tax cut, and we go through this magical power. they are going to think 90% of the approval. so, you're going to have a general consensus. you do this year to get 500 of that in the interest savings alone. this should not be as challenging as it is. >> the other thing i would disagree about is the fact and i have been a huge jet kit and continue to be a huge advocate of tax reform debate and it's a critically important piece and i do think the noti
we're facing a fiscal cliff or anything. >> you're right, susan. it's not a fiscal cliff but a slope. it's a gradual one. >> stooe, it's not right on to talk about people when they're right there. have some manners. do it behind their back. really, it's got for morale. there's a study and everything. >> if you can't say something nice to something, come on over here and tell it to me. no worries, you're among friends here. it's "the cycle." >>> two big developments on the economic front. first the unemployment numbers for november came out and they were way better than expected. we added a net gain of 146,000 jobs and the unemployment rate dropped to 7.7%, the lowest in four years. to steal a little from krystal, it appears it's obama and boehner one on one. there's no i in team but there's one in win, which is why the fiscal slope negotiations are getting serious. we haven't heard yet from the president but have heard from speaker boehner. >> this isn't a progress report, because there's no progress to report. the white house has wasted another week. it's time for the president, if
are especially vulnerable this time of year, this year in particular as the fiscal cliff beckons. for many of the unemployed, the cliff is a clear and present danger. unless congress and the president act before the times square ball drops, many on unemployment insurance will be left to fend for themselves. that's because federal extensions of those benefits, currently up to 47 additional weeks in some states would suddenly expire. that would make for an exceptionally unhappy holiday for an estimated two million unemployed americans. >> brown: we take a closer look now at the standoff and stakes involving unemployment benefits. judith conti is the federal advocacy coordinator for the national employment law project, a workers' rights group. and bill beech heads the center for data analysis at the heritage foundation, a conservative think tank. did welcome to both of you. >> thank you. >> pick up first judy conti on what we just heard, why is the amount of long-term unemployment so stubbornly high? >> what's happening now is we're starting to see job creation. we're starting to see less peo
's the latest on the congress and particularly on the fiscal cliff front. jake, good to have you back. >> thank for having me. >> stan colander a good friend frequent guest. we call him "the budget guy." with the job numbers coming up a little later in the hour we want stan standing buy. >> did you say an army of operators? is that what dick army is doing? i was wondering. >> he made the million dollar pay out. >> 8 markos moulitsas. >> dick army leaving freedom works be, jim demint leaveing the senate. >> it's been a tough month for republican leaders. >> it has indeed. it was a tough day yesterday for mitch mcconnell in the u.s. senate. i don't know whether you heard. he ended up filibustering his own bill yesterday which was pretty embarrassing for mitch mcconnell. he had to take the insults from harry reid who said the republicans are like clueless or like without a rudder or maybe without at quarterback. here is harry reid showing some spots knowledge here. >> now to the new york jets coach ryan he's got a problem. he has three quarterbacks. sanchez
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